Saturday, October 08, 2011

on being a person.

Suppose you had been born into a set of conditions qualitatively identical to those of John Wayne Gacy Jr. (viz.,—suppose you were born into the same environment and with the same genetic make up and so on and so forth). Would you have, by that very fact, made the identical choices that he did make? Could you have chosen to act differently than he in fact did?

1. If your answer is “YES” to the “Would you…?” and “NO” to the “Could you…?” questions: It seems that you’re committed to the idea that what one does at any particular moment is a logical consequence of all the facts that are true of a person at that particular moment. I.e., that the sufficient reason that necessitates whatever one does is some combination of her psychology/physical constitution plus her environment, and that’s it.

Problem for 1.: No one ever had a choice about the conditions she was born into. I.e., no one chooses where she is born or to whom she is born, and no one has a choice about her genetic makeup. Well, if no one has a choice about the initial conditions that one is born into, and all of her subsequent actions/choices are the product of these initial conditions, it seems that one is no more responsible for what one does at the age of 23 than what one does at the age of 1 day old. But if that’s right, then it seems someone like John Wayne Gacy Jr. is no more responsible for the evil he did than a redwood is responsible for crushing a lumberjack.

2. If your answer is “NOT NECESSARILY” to the “Would you…?” and “YES” to the “Could you…?” questions: It seems that you’re committed to the idea that what one does at any particular moment may or may not be the logical consequence of all the facts that are true of a person at that particular moment. I.e., that the combination of one’s psychological/psychical constitution plus her environment may not be sufficient to necessitate whatever she does.

Problem for 2: If there is a situation where one chooses to do something and this choosing to do something is not a logical consequence of her psychological/physical constitution plus her environment, then it seems that there is no ultimate reason why she did what she did other than the brute fact that she simply decided to do whatever it was she decided to do. And if this is right, trying to completely understand why we do what we do in terms understanding our psychological/physical constitution and our environment will turn out to be an abject failure. In the words of Chisholm, “there can be no science of man,” for like God, and unlike ordinary material objects, we can move things without ourselves being moved by anything at all.

“Let Us make Man in Our Image...” (Gen 1:26)

6 Comments:

Blogger Louis said...

"...then it seems that there is no ultimate reason why she did what she did other than the brute fact that she simply decided to do whatever it was she decided to do."

I take it that by "reason" you do not mean something like "goal" or "telos", but something like "sufficient cause", and that this position would be that the sufficient cause for the behavior in question would be ultimately supplied by the decision of the person in question, but that the decision itself would be have no sufficient causes behind it?

If so, why couldn't the decision be sufficiently self-caused?

2:56 PM  
Blogger Derek said...

Hello Louis!

"I take it that by "reason" you do not mean something like "goal" or "telos", but something like "sufficient cause"

That's right (I think?). I'm not denying that an agent acts for an end or goal, but that whatever the telos is, it's not *itself* sufficient for her to do what she does.

"question would be ultimately supplied by the decision of the person in question, but that the decision itself would be have no sufficient causes behind it?"

That's right.

"If so, why couldn't the decision be sufficiently self-caused?"

I'm not denying that. But, I'm not sure saying "she did what she did because she's the cause" is any more illuminating than "she chose what she chose because she chose it."

Or am I missing something!?

9:39 PM  
Blogger Louis said...

No, that seems right. I guess it's just that I can't see how saying something like "behavior Z was sufficiently caused by decision Y, which was sufficiently caused by antecedent conditions X (whose sufficient cause… etc.)" is any more illuminating than "behavior Z was sufficiently caused by decision Y, which was sufficiently caused by itself". They each give rise slightly different questions, but neither seems to have the obvious upper illuminative hand.

11:18 AM  
Blogger Yours Truly said...

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12:00 AM  
Blogger Yours Truly said...

Brute facts require trust in relationship to be accepted and understood in persons being "observed." Ahh the joys of epistemology.

1:21 AM  
Blogger Derek said...

Louis-

I agree, I think, that one is no more illuminating than the next in terms of explaining why a particular action takes place. But I think that the denial of the following thesis:

(P) "the antecedent conditions of S's F-ing (i.e., all the facts regarding S at the time she F's) entail (i.e., is logically sufficient) that she F's"

is extraordinarily illuminating about what it means to be a person.

9:40 AM  

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